Modern Borecast Vol.1: A WILD PODCAST APPEARS!

Welcome to the first ever Modern Borefare podcast/vodcast a.k.a The Modern Borecast! Myself, Adam, viciouspjurahead & Shallow Ma Gu got together recently (via Google Hangouts) to discuss Room 237, the soon-to-be-released documentary about Stanley Kubrick’s The Shining. We also dip into such diverse topics as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles villains, Frank Miller’s Daredevil run, Magic: The Gathering,  Wizards of the Coast’s tampering with the rules of D&D, which star of AMC’s The Walking Dead is the greasiest IRL, what effect massive weight gain would have on Superman’s powers and how Time Warner Cable is the devil.

A preemptive thanks for watching/listening; leave a comment below. We’d all appreciate it! Unless it’s to comment on my spastic head movements or my “uhhh” verbal crutch. I don’t think I’d appreciate those kinds of comments as much. I also don’t think a football is a very good Christmas present.

Trailer for Room 237:

17 thoughts on “Modern Borecast Vol.1: A WILD PODCAST APPEARS!

  1. After watching it again I’ve realized that, based on my topic where I mention the narrative of Eyes Wide Shut and Mulholland Drive, this movie is a discussion of the interpretation of the narrative of the movie, but of the theories that surround certain objects and certain shots of the movie. I would have liked one commentator to perhaps discuss an analysis of the narrative.


  2. I didn’t want to say anything but that Elba/St. Helena faux pas was SO EMBARRASSING. And it was literally the only inaccurate thing ANY of us said the entire time! Wait, which one is Shelley Long again? Hrm.


  3. Hi guys! Great first effort! I’ve listened to about half so far, but I already had a couple comments.

    First, as to “when is a movie just a movie” – I think when it’s not that great. What makes a movie (or book, or painting) good (what elevates to “art,” if you like) is that there’s more going on to think about and talk about and explore than just plot. What makes Moby Dick better than someone writing about their fishing trip is not so much that it’s a more exciting story (though it may be) but that Melville explores deeper themes—of revenge, hubris, friendship, etc. And even more than that, that these themes are woven into the background of the story, in images, symbols, and so forth. That said, I think viciouspjurahead has an important point: noticing something in the background is worthless if it doesn’t connect somehow to an overall theme, if it doesn’t amount to anything.

    Thinking about it now, my problem with Room 237 is that the filmmakers implicitly seem to want to deny the interpretations of their subjects and make their ideas look far-fetched and silly. They appear to be letting them speak for themselves, but in fact the way they are presented makes the people look like they are teasing out minutiae. For example, if you wanted to make a case about the whole minotaur thing, you would start with your strongest point: the centrality of the maze, the fact that it wasn’t in the book but was invented by Kubrick, it’s relation to the hotel itself, etc., etc. Only sort of incidentally, to show how much it pervades the film, would you perhaps call attention to the poster. But because the film presents the point about the poster first and then drops it to talk about another issue, it immediately made the viewer suspicious of that interpretation. The woman does make the more convincing points later, but the filmmakers subordinate them to the more trivial point in the way they edit the film. Same goes for the point about Indians: I thought the guy was crazy for saying the placement of baking soda meant that the film was about disenfranchisement of Native Americans – only much later in the documentary do you get enough of the evidence to understand that it may, indeed, have been purposeful.

    I’m not saying some of the interpretation weren’t crazy (I’m looking at you moon-landing guy), but I think the filmmakers had an agenda here. Also, you don’t hear much about the implications of the points the people make—what viciouspjurahead was looking for. Now, is that because there are none or is that part on the editing room floor of Room 237?

    Look forward to more of your stimulating discussions that I can write a novel’s worth of comments to instead of doing my own work!


  4. I agree, there is manipulation of the audience reaction to that minotaur theory in particular. Choosing that weird poster (I could not see how it was minotaur) as the lead in for it when the maze and other examples were so much better…


  5. Humor (Ill Tho’ It May Be) From the Great American Down-Mellow (Goodbye, Coffee of March 24, 2013): Spectre’s got me by the suspenders, flingback to the Inescapable Notion that “The Shining” is That One Nicholson Flick During Which I Can’t Stay Awake….VHS Rental, Online Viewing, HBO Uncut, TNT Cut-to-Ribbons-For-Format-and-Marketing, I still get dragged, snoring and drooling into slumber. MIND YE, RASCALS, I’ve been wide-eyed through several viewings of “Man Trouble” and “The Last Tycoon”. Ergo, Bringeth El Valkyrie Dodgeballs.


  6. G-dammit…if Podcasts were congruent to my early-to-mid-1990s employment in the Seven Circles of Video Store Hades…I’d blow up the internet. DINOSAUR ISLAND, mothertruckers!


  7. You guys should do a significant other movie discussion. For example, my wife has not seen any Star Wars films. A better example – a few years ago I was watching Godfather II and my wife came into the room, sat down about a half hour of the way through, and was immediately hooked. It was a fantastic time in our marriage.


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